Thursday, May 15, 2025

Ai Reply: Religion

When was religion recognized as religion? Did the Sumerians know what a religion was?  When did religion enter the colloquial mind, when did it become a political force?



(Ai reply)


It's fascinating to consider when "religion" became a distinct category of human experience and how its influence evolved. Here's a breakdown of your questions:

When was religion recognized as religion?

The concept of "religion" as a separate and defined category is a relatively modern development, largely emerging in the 16th and 17th centuries in the West, particularly with the rise of the nation-state and the need to differentiate between secular and sacred authority.

 * Classical and Ancient World: In ancient societies, including the Sumerians, there wasn't necessarily a distinct concept of "religion" separate from other aspects of life like governance, social customs, ethics, and cosmology. Their beliefs and practices were deeply interwoven with their daily existence and understanding of the world. What we might now call "religious" activities were simply part of their societal fabric.

 * The Role of Writing: The invention of writing, around 3200 BCE, allowed for the codification of religious texts and practices, which played a significant role in standardizing beliefs and rituals across time and space.

 * The Enlightenment: The Enlightenment period in Europe was crucial in shaping the modern understanding of religion. Thinkers began to analyze and categorize human beliefs and practices, leading to the concept of "religion" as a distinct field of study and a separate sphere from the state.

Did the Sumerians know what a religion was?

No, not in the way we understand "religion" today as a distinct and bounded system of beliefs and practices.

 * Integrated Worldview: For the Sumerians, their interactions with deities, their myths, rituals, and the role of temples were integral to their understanding of the cosmos, their place within it, and the functioning of their society. Their pantheon of anthropomorphic gods was deeply connected to their city-states and natural forces.

 * No Separate Sphere: There wasn't a clear separation between the "religious" and the "secular." The temple was not just a place of worship but also an economic and administrative center. The ruler often had close ties to the priesthood and religious legitimacy.

 * "Religious Literature": While they produced a rich body of what we now call "religious literature" (myths, hymns, prayers), this was part of their broader cultural and societal expression, not necessarily categorized as belonging to a distinct domain called "religion."

When did religion enter the colloquial mind?

Religion, in its various forms, has likely always been a part of the "colloquial mind" in the sense that people have always had beliefs, rituals, and ways of understanding the supernatural or the ultimate questions of life. However, the understanding of "religion" as a distinct category in everyday thought probably evolved alongside its intellectual and political differentiation.

 * Spread of Organized Religions: The rise and spread of large, organized religions like Christianity, Islam, and Buddhism likely contributed to a more defined sense of "religion" as a system of faith, practices, and belonging in the popular consciousness. These religions often had specific doctrines, institutions, and moral codes that were distinct from other aspects of life.

 * Religious Conflicts and Movements: Historical events like the Reformation, religious wars, and various religious movements would have brought the concept of distinct "religions" and their differences into sharper focus in the public mind.

 * Secularization: Ironically, the process of secularization in some parts of the world, which aimed to separate religion from state and public life, also reinforced the idea of religion as a distinct entity – something that could be separate.

When did it become a political force?

Religion has been intertwined with political power for millennia, since the earliest civilizations.

 * Ancient Theocracies: In many ancient societies, including early Sumerian city-states where priests held significant power, religious authority directly translated into political authority. Rulers often claimed divine mandate to legitimize their rule.

 * State Religions: Throughout history, many states have adopted official religions, using religious institutions to support their authority, enforce social order, and promote national unity. Think of the Roman Empire's adoption of Christianity or various Islamic empires.

 * Religious Conflicts: Religion has also been a major factor in political conflict, from ancient wars fought over sacred sites to more modern sectarian violence.

 * Modern Political Movements: Even in secular societies, religion continues to be a significant political force, influencing social policies, electoral behavior, and international relations. Religious organizations often advocate for specific political agendas based on their values and beliefs. The rise of religious nationalism in various parts of the world is a contemporary example of this.

In conclusion, while humans have always had beliefs and practices we now categorize as religious, the concept of "religion" as a distinct and defined sphere is a relatively recent development. For ancient societies like the Sumerians, their spiritual and social lives were deeply integrated. Religion's influence as a political force is ancient and enduring, evolving in its manifestations but consistently shaping human societies and their governance.


Friday, April 11, 2025

4/11

April Eleventh 

I can hear 
my DNA when 
I talk with my sister
laughing over 
late afternoon 
saki and yellow tail 
still figuring out
mom and dad bullshit





Sunday, March 16, 2025

past ten

the stretch of 
my mid-life crisis
has corresponded
to the rise of fascism 
which makes a lot of sense 
when you think about it

Tuesday, March 11, 2025

Tonight 
the screaming sirens 
in the distance 
the sound of engines revving
a cool breeze blows 
a scent of sage and rock, 
clouds looming low 

Tuesday, February 18, 2025

when I blew out the candle

last night sitting 

on my patio

burning a candle

listening to music

on my headphones

when I blew out 

the candle

the music on my 

headphones stopped


Tuesday, February 11, 2025

Wednesday, January 29, 2025

Wed Jan 29, 2025

the air blurs blue gray
drops in slow over the hills
a cool desert rain

Wednesday, January 22, 2025

 8:30 pm Wed Jan 22, 2025

rising East, stars
Castor and Pollux with Mars 
make a hockey stick shape
then Procyon shines out in Canis Minor
above me at high noon sits Jupiter 
bright along side Orion the Hunter 
with its cosmic belt
and underneath that 
silver Sirius in Canis Major

Tuesday, January 21, 2025

Friday, December 13, 2024

December 13, 2024


waxing gibbous (94% 98%)
moon sign: ♉︎ ♊︎
sun sign: ♐︎
friday

almost full moon
shines with Jupiter 
and Orion
rising low East 
as slow meteor 
lobs into view 
with oval white glow
and melts away


Sunday, December 1, 2024

SkyKu (Winter)

 


North 33 degrees 42 minutes 29.80 seconds

West 111 degrees 54 minutes 2.81 seconds




the ones who eat the sun live in the west, they turn into lions

—from African bushman folklore



silk fog moves around 

the wet black ironwood boughs

sandy gravel wash


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in a dream last night

an art gallery and friends 

spoke poems and plays 


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a full moon halo 

circles orion mid-night 

jupiter shines bright


-


calm night waning moon 

high now orion east sits

near the gemini


-


moon sets in the west 

its like liquid ivory 

seeds float with the moths


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dry scattered twigs are 

swept up by the wind lifting

into the cold air


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we think the world will

end every day until

forever the end


  

a meteorite 

falls towards orion’s belt 

scratching a gray streak


-


greasewood is creosote


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moon glow, trees ink black

the clouds break in to patches

the sky is a quilt


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a deep soft dusk now

purple blue and flaming peach

stretch the horizon


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sharp and bright venus 

a slice of moon, a star drops

the plane flies away


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heart between my ribs

through my eternal eyes the

silent heavens shine


-


rain in the gutters 

a thousand clocks ticking quick

shimmering water



languid flowing flood

the rocks and bubbly mud suds

swirling around trees


-


six vultures spiral 

wide in the upper thermals 

above the boulders


-


a leaf holds a drop 

of consciousness, the wildlife 

close as a fire 


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that day in your mind

was happening in the night

while you were dreaming


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blood orange moon now 

disappears on the horizon 

into my dream mind

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scant inspiration 

to fight the old loneliness 

in the night shadows 


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tranquility gone
low flying helicopter  

steals sound, not my soul


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ethereal time 

grace, mirth and contemplation

and hot food cooking


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sometimes I never 

figure out the meanings of 

songs inside my heart

-


Claus-haiku


the frog beside 

the old pond 

jumps in -Ho Ho Ho


-


full moon high misty 

clouds a fine pastel halo 

in lupine pupils


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cold full moon tonight

ancestral ghosts travel light

trees move in the wind


-


whistling and snapping

gave us the edge in the hunt

hails the cab in rain


-


sky clears and reveals 

timelessness and space and breath 

from my mouth to yours


-


the slumbering eye 

of a coyote puppy 

in the warm earth den 


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when it is cold fall  

down into the hallow earth 

when its hot rise up


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poetry in heart

the dark of death in winter 

we sit near the fires


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silent, empty, cold, 

house, the wood moves, the plumbing

thumps, and still nothing 


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silk clouds to hills 

orion high in the east 

a meteor streaks


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eyes to universe, 

ears to music mind to breath 

heart to soul tonight


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primary suspects 

moon in taurus, orion 

chases jupiter


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moon and orion

at twelve o'clock jupiter 

in the east rising 


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rain wind rumble rain 

wicked cold rain rumbles on

rumble clap splat flash!


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moon sets west dressed in 

blood orange ivory pod

orion recedes


-


cracks in the columns

burning of laurels the no 

tomorrow's and floods


-


nothing on earth as 

old as earth as fingers dig 

in the cool dark earth 


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losing view of moon 

venus and palo verdes 

it's all yours Quartzite 


-


low crescent moon sets 

west through the trees on the road

an owl waits for me


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full moon low over 

the blue foothills after dusk

east of the mountains


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the moon drops as blood

in a thick night, a chorus 

of coyotes howl


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in dead now-silence

orion sets in the west 

jupiter still high 


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mars east, jupiter west 

big rain on the way 

to soak the rest


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3am skies clear

jupiter near full moon now

a framed orion  


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it is a dream night 

tastes like a shot of soma

clouds weaving sequins 


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something tells me when 

I fall asleep I'm going 

to wake up alone


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messy drippy pomes 

with no sense; draining out from 

my ears, like dumb brains


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now I lay me down 

to sleep I pray my 

ancient school teachers 

my soul to take 

if I should die 

before I wake 

then publish 

all my writings  

take a cut, get high 

and go fly fishing


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moon shines through twisted 

acacia limbs, silent 

hill with weight of sky 


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A Translation of Basho's famous Haiku on Leap Day:


an archeaobatrachia sits

beside ancient vernal wetland

and leaps in - plerp!


--EJ Phxtzu; February 29th, 2016


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clouds veil the moon 

laying through the western dive


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moon sets now over 

night painted in pollutants 

city of homeless


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early morning mind 

feeling the weight of the world 

I stand up in pain 


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our dream mind body 

in motion is like water 

pouring from the grave


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wind moves over wild 

ghosts walking with hungry eyes

snow in the meadow


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Steve Noettl ©️